Using Wallet.app to open doors with NFC reader

App & System Services Hardware iPhone Wallet Core NFC Apple Pay

Created Jan ’21

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G'day.

At my office the doors are locked with an NFC reader. We carry around a little NFC tag on our key chains which will read out a number and this then will open the door if the number matches a number in the database.

I am tired of carrying around the tag, people keep loosing it, forgetting it and it would be nice to open the door using a Phone - which we tend to always have on us.

So I used a credit card which is NFC enabled to readout the NFC information, added this number to the database and can now open doors using my credit card. This is pretty cool. If I forget my keys (most likely they will be on the desk but silly me left the desk without them), I may have my wallet with me.

Then I tried Wallet.app on my iPhone and select the same credit card. However the door doesn't open. When looking in the door software I noticed that the tags will always transmit the same number. So does my credit card. However Wallet.app will read out 4 readings (or maybe just one very long one) and they are always different. So I can not make them match with the door database.

Any ideas how to make this work? Can I give somehow wallet.app an NFC number which I can then add to my door database? Or how come the credit card and the very same one in wallet.app don't match?

Thanks for your help! Would be neat if I could make this work out. This will make a lot of people happy at my office!

Cheers!

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fredderf OP

Jul ’22

Maybe this site can create such an door opening NFC card? https://passninja.com/

fredderf OP

Jul ’22

Other demo NFC pass creating site: https://originpass.com/VTAP/

Deemer OP

Aug ’22

I understand your problem and fully agree to that.

However, i have implemented a workaround here, which works flawless since years.

I‘ve put a NFC sticker next to my door. I also have added a workflow/shortcut that triggers when the phone is next to the sticker and simply opens the door.

Not the same, management gets harder for many devices, but it works.

freeridre OP

Sep ’22

Deemer and where's the security of it? The phone reads the nfc stick, and then? Send a response to a server or what? What if the service of the server is not running?

Ishan81 OP

Sep ’22

It looks they have implemented a static Rfid card feature which is used by hotel chains to add keycard to wallet .

https://youtube.com/shorts/ef9Cu37uSV0?feature=share

does that mean someone can create an app to create a unique rfid from phone that can be then used by eg lock to learn the rfid code ?

gohilurvish OP

Oct ’22

Can you please give a try with this app "Wallet Creator" which allows to generate types of wallet cards? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wallet-creator/id1486573384

Jeroen_S OP

Nov ’22

Tried the Wallet Creator as given above. But unfortunaly it will not work. It can provide a serialnr. But it will not scan the NFC inside the lock or card. So we have to look further. Anyone a solution?

Question: How to unlock the Ikea Rothult by using the iPhone NFC.

cmballer OP

Nov ’22

Can you explain how you accomplished this...

So I used a credit card which is NFC enabled to readout the NFC information, added this number to the database and can now open doors using my credit card

triankar OP

Jan ’23

Perhaps it's time the European Commission leaned on Apple on this front, after basically forcing them to use USB-C. This stranglehold on the NFC chip in Apple mobile devices could really be considered market protectionism. And since no tech journalist dares to mumble this, maybe the EC should.

bronken OP

Jan ’23

I am also desperately looking for a static uid solution.

So none of the transit cards are static, you guys tried all of them? I only tried „tap“ and that one is dynamic.

jhohlfeld OP

Mar ’23

Hey y'all! I found this on the apple support pages: https://support.apple.com/en-vn/guide/iphone/iph6d3076f9c/ios

So they are stating that you may use Apple Wallet to store your hotel room's key etc. within Wallet. I did not find a tutorial, though. But maybe it helps!

IvanJiang OP

Jul ’23

Also looking for a way to do this, will Apple have a official reply on this? Is it possible ?

ndorigatti OP

Jul ’23

I would be more than happy to find some tutorials or insights. We are empty (don't have the NFC reader) but we are ready for an android version that uses Host Card Emulation. We would need to know if it is feasible in Apple iOS to create a pass in our app that goes to Wallet and then is ready to be used as an NFC card. It's quite difficult to understand if it is possibile, if so how, and what kind of readers do we need. Android docs states that reader should be ISODep compatible, here i'm searching but could not find any help. We can't go for external paying services

Pyth0nym OP

Sep ’23

Any news on this? Has anybody successfully taken a travel card and made it work with a static nfc code?

den525 OP

Jan ’24

Still nothing?