My Macbook can boot El Capitan in 30 seconds. The only diffrence between Early and Late 2009 MacBooks is DDR2 vs DDR3. Don't tell me DDR2 was why my MacBook was dropped
Sierra MacBook Early 2009? why no support?
I don't understand either, but I do understand generally that you can't just assume, even when it looks equal. Another example is the borough ha ha around which company made the A9 chip in the Air 2 or was that a different iPad. It was thought that the Samsung version had issues. Regardless that wasn't the case but the issue is the same, where two identical spec hardware components can be identical from a spec or performance standpoint but have differences that later cause issues. Look Apple has bigger issues than how to get the few peopleable to get by on 2009 MacBook to upgrade to a new CPU. In fact if I were the Product Manager I would laugh and say anyone still using a 2009 MacBook is more likely to buy a used 2010 MacBook than a new CPU. In other words the conspiracy stuff here is just silly.
Same here. Why are similar models not supported?
The MacBook Pro 2009 has what looks to me like the same specs as the late 2009 MacBook but the MBP 2009 won't run Sierra.
HrutkayMods, jcommaret - the statements Ross Kinard posted above tell you why the systems have been delisted. There are features in the new OS which won't run optimally on that hardware. I really don't see Apple giving reasons as that could give undesirable information out (including giving the means for people to get Sierra to run on their systems that are now unsupported).
And, yes, my 17" 2008 MBP falls into that camp.
7 or 8 years is a good run for any system (any corporate machines are depreciated off of the books at 5 years max)
We've been fortunate to have been able to use these systems so long.
He can move to Linux and never pay a dime !
With the half money of a mac mini you make a computer with a 6core or 4 core 4ghz amd cpu that will rock, an overclocked edition Nvida graphics card and an ssd and you play every game you dreamed of in full res full details !
Just DONT buy an amd graphics card they **** at linux !
Windows are best for gaming and if you need some proprietary software and you depend on them to do your job !
Escape this **** and actually experience the newest pc technologies ! Be astonished in rich graphics 3d games and fast operating system performance !
Don't be silly don'tbe stupid fanboys , you may have conviced yourself that you like this alternative but this alternative is preventing you from actually
have the Experience other people have ! You have left behind !
What about all the time they will have to spend patching up el Capitan from now to eternity???
This ***** Apple. I have a perfectly capable machine and buying now is highly not recommended now all over MacRumors’ buying guide. Hopefully by the grace of some left over engineers who aren't working on a Micky Mouse watch face upgrade, phone or car, you've got some things called computers coming. Ya, I want to upgrade yet have no compelling reason and shutting me out isn't one. Apparently the former engineers out engineered the present generation. Don’t hold it against them. I’m going to pretend it's some benevolent reason like you need to lock down security against the coming virus zombie BIOS apocalypse. But you know you could just humor us and say as much. Maybe it's more mundane like you are moving to a nice new shiny building and wanted to clean house en route – 2009 – such dusty hardware! Not telling us leads to rumor, speculation, feelings of betrayal, yada, yada, yada…inuendo…
Its either Apple's way of saying throw your perfectly fine machine in the bin and buy a new one or it could be that OSX simply cannot support more than a handful of hardware drivers and therefore for it to work they have to depreciate perfectly fine to machines to make way for new ones with new hardware.
I tried to complain and was told that El Capitan will still work on the machine but I am already finding so much software in the App Store that will only run on Sierra so our unsupported machines really are becoming useless quickly.
Thanks Apple, I really think you need to revisit the supported machines for Sierra and add our perfectly fine models to it. My Macbook has plenty of RAM and SSD so there is nothing wrong with it. Lucky for me my main computer is a Dell Laptop so I won't be getting forced into replacing my Mac but I do feel for others!
Must admit I think have to agree 😀
"lucky" your main machine is a dell. Is that also close to 10 years old?
You are all free to continue to use alder versions of macOs- i find it incredible that after a few weeks there are apps in the app store which only support sierra. I would hazard a guess these are not high quality apps. AFAIK there is no reason why an app that can run on sierra cannot run on capitan.
I would prefer apple concentrate on bringing a few mac models into the present (hardware wise), rather than wasting time supporting ancient machines.
Congratulations for noticing that Mac hardware is low spec and you can build your own machine for 1/4 of the price, with better hardware. At 14 years of age, the world is at your fingertips. While you may think that you're a child-genius who's just stumbled upon a massive secret about Mac hardware, you haven't. I've seen people like you complaining about Mac hardware for the past 20 years. You kids seem to think you know everything and love to come on Apple forums to complain and tells us how stupid we are for buying Macs and Apple products. Kid, we know we can get better hardware for cheaper. But having the fastest CPU and GPU isn't everyones priority. I've been developing on Macs for over 10 years and the tooling is second to none. Windows is still a joke. Some linux distros are OK. But the best tools for the type of development I do are only available on MacOS / OSX. Of course, you, a teen non-developer, wouldn't know anything about that. Try and understand that what's important to you isn't important to everyone else. And your comment about MacOS being the slowest OS on earth? I have a 5.5 year old MacBook Pro that boots faster than a brand new Surface Book. Just proves you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Not a single clue. Your pointless anti-apple rants are a waste of time. I've been writing software for longer than you've been alive kid; you don't know everything and you aren't a genius. If you want to change the world, go and do something productive instead of signing up to the Apple developer forum and writing anti-apple rants.
A few hardware upgrades and my 2007 iMac is running macOS Sierra with complete software support i.e. Handoff, clipboard. And it still runs smooth as butter