After upgrading to 10.13, my 500GB SSD is nearly full. With 10.12 i always had ~200GB free. Looking at AboutThisMac->Storage->Manage, i see "System" using up nearly 300GB. However, looking at my SSD in finder, i cannot see any folders that would sum up to this size.
Does anyone notice this as well and is there a workaround?
radar://32782835
Will be interestng to see what happens when Beta 2 is released, if the OS is reporting insufficient disk space when it comes to downloading and installing the dmg....
My 2014 rMBP 512gb SSD on APFS is reporting 2gb free despite deleting about 120gb of iTunes movies etc, and I'm getting diskspace, terminal buffer and swap warnings left, right and centre and can't even install the new iWork updates via App Store now.
I wonder how the Beta 2 will cope.....
I'm having this exact same issue. Has made the computer nearly unusable, so I'm backing up everything important to an external disk (*not* APFS formatted), and will do a clean reinstall using HFS+. As much as I want to be on the modern filesystem, I never had any major problems with HFS+, and I have Time Machine backups in case something DOES go awry. I'll retry APFS after a few more betas (or whenever it's confirmed that this issue is resolved), or just wait for the GM release. There's no rush to switch over just yet.
Below: DaisyDisk showing this "dead space" in purple. It's clearly just as puzzled about this as the rest of us are.
Well, I'm losing more disk space, slowly, but it doesn't appear to be due to snapshots, nor "hidden files" as DaisyDisk calls them. Heck, the "hidden files" total in DaisyDisk has shrunk by 1GB since I last checked a few days ago.
/private is growing, though.
/private/var/db/dyld - the dyld cache - 1.1GB
/private/var/db/diagnostics - 978.5 MB
/private/var/tmp - contains the four ~215MB sysdiagnose packages I've shared with Apple so far - 913.5 MB
/Users/<me>/Documents - seems to be downloading local copies of my iCloud documents, it's up to 12 GB now
This appears to be exactly the same issue.
tried fsck_apfs -y /dev/disk0s2
....
** Checking the snapshots.
error: fext_val : object (oid 0xac05): Bad phys_block_num+len for physical file extent record. phys_block_num 55505610 len 12288
Snapshot is invalid
** The volume /dev/disk0s2 could not be verified completely.
....
Having exactly the same issue.
The drive was showing about 10GB free so I deleted over 100GB of files, music, apple loops etc.
Whilst the folder size reports the change the overall free drive space remained unchanged as if the files were not deleted.
Viewing every folder in the root directory directly there should probably be less than 200GB total used on the drive but it is reporting over 478GB used of a 512GB drive.
There are 0 snapshots (using tmutil) on the drive so maybe either the snapshot references are getting lost/corrupted or there is some kind of file deletion/freeing issue.
Same issue for me too, started happening as the drive became nearly full.
Deleting nearly 200gb of data did not free up the space, the filesystem just isn't releasing it.
First Aid in Disk Utility passes without error, but fails with error 8 when run on the drive in Recovery.
Haven't had any luck using Recovery to install High Sierra on an external drive, connection to the recovery server fails, so I'm just about to head into the nearest Apple Store to reformat and reinstall back to HFS+.
I ended using carbon copy cloner to clone the 10.13 from the APFS to an external drive. Then used a 10.12 installer I put on a thumb drive a while back to format the interal drive to HFS+. Then booted to the clone and cloned back from the external to the internal drive. Now 10.13 works like a charm on the HFS+ formatted drive. It took a while to copy all the files, but everything seems like its working fine.
I really didn't need APFS for anything I code.
Has somebody found any ability to clear up space?
Now I have only 250 MB left & I'm simply afraid that I won't be able even to download Beta 2 which maybe will resolve this issue completely.
I was thinking the same thing. I managed to move about 40 GB of stuff to an external drive and the freespace hasn't changed.. I am still able to download iOS updated in iTunes and I've had a few other MAS updates go through successfully. But, those have all been under a couple GB's. Was hoping that Beta 2 would correct this, but a lot of good it'll do if I can't even download it to install it.
The problem really is snapshots.
That means:
1) Deleting files that have snapshots is pointless
2) Overwriting them results in more space used
3) Deleting files created _after_ the snapshot frees space normally - I was able to free a few gigs to upgrade to Beta 2.
And no, Beta 2 doesn't fix this. FSCK doesn't care, kernel doesn't care, messages are still the same:
apfs_update_phys_range:2464: Attempted to dereference range 91127985+1 but it isn't entirely there! (found gap at 91127985, next range at 91128302+6)
So if someone else was holding on hoping it would get fixed... better luck next time :-(
Sadly, this issue remains in beta 2. In fact, beta 2 has lost another 10GB for me, down to 40GB (was 50GB) free.
Unfortunately, I’m not even able to update to b2 because I don’t have enough disk space. And deleting ANYTHING is not changing the amount of free space. I got a reply from Apple about the bug I filed for this and they had me run a terminal command, but that errors. I’m stuck.
Same problem... Daisy Disk shows 700GB of "hidden space" even when I run it as admin. I need to reclaim that space.
smt2ios, you may want to reference my problem ID (aka radar): 32840169. Has anyone else opened up a problem ID?
I haven't received a response yet from Apple, I opened the case 4 days ago.
same problem, can not update to Beta 2 due of low disk space.
dear bradhs123, how to open up a problem ID?
