Hey ChuckNM: Thanks for the reply. If I use export as an option, then when I notarize the installer, the notification server responds with: "The signature of the binary is invalid.". If I go hunting into the xcarchive and package that up, everything is great. Or is it my notarizing of the installer which is: xcrun altool --notarize-app \ --primary-bundle-id "com.xyz.abc213456" \ --username "yoda@mac.com" \ --password "somepassword" \ -f MyGreatApp_v${VERSION}.pkg I thought the --notarize-app flag was for packages. That's the reader's digest version. I'd be happy to provide any additional info. I think this is one of those "Is it this bit or that bit" sort of problems. John

Quinn: It was an execution order thing. There's a metric tonne[1] of objects that have to be created, and I got one out of order. Thanks for your explanation and patience. John [1]: In Canada, for those on the Imperial System, one thousand pounds?

Mentioning Codewarrior and MPW brought back the same memories. Anyone remember TML Pascal? My Codewarrior 9 package (with a burnt disk that has Codewarrior 10 in it) is in my bookshelf. And below that, the two volume edition of "Inside Macintosh". A bargain at $195 Canadian (if memory serves). That was a pay cheque for me back then. What else to say but "Those were the days my friend!..."