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      Latest reply on Sep 16, 2019 8:31 AM by gchiste
      samdi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

        Hi all,

         

        I am running Apple's people occlusion sample on my A12 iPad mini. It is running iOS 13 beta 3, and I am using Xcode 11 Beta 3. I can run it and build ok, but for whatever reason the occlusion itself doesn't work whether its turned on or off.

         

        I am getting this output in the console:

         

        2019-07-12 10:37:19.714564-0400 PeopleOcclusion[460:32143] [espresso] Warning: padding deconvolution MobileNetv2-Depth/FPN/p1/conv2d_transpose:0 in SAME mode will not be pad-invariant for all resolutions

         

        Any ideas? Anyone have a similar issue?

        • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
          r_k Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

          I have a same problem on my iPad mini 5th(A12), iPad OS 13 beta 4.

          I think iPad mini cannot use people occlusion.

          very disappointing...

            • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
              samdi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

              Can we get any confirmation from this from Apple? It doesn't make sense why the iPad mini A12 would be excluded? This would be highly disappointing if true.

                • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                  funnest Apple Staff Apple Staff (145 points)

                  Please file a bug report.

                    • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                      mebalzer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                      Frankly having to file a bug report on this raises eyebrows considering we are now at iOS 13b4. and the iPad Air 3 & iPad Mini 5 have been available since March 18th and they will be the most popular besides the 2018-2019 iPhones for this ability.  The only thing I can think of is the 8 megapixel cameras shared by these two devices versus the 12 megapixel in the iPad Pros and iPhones.

                      I for one will not be very happy to have spent $400 for an iPad Air 3 based on Apple's guidance in print and all of the mentions on stage during WWDC 2019 of only requiring an A12.  I will be even angrier if 30 days go by since my purchase without a solution or refined list of compatible devices to allow me to return it and purchase the correct device as well as the time lost.

                        • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                          mebalzer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                          I have just updated to iPadOS 13b5 & Xcode 11b5 and sadly it has not been added either for the iPad Air Gen 3 (2019).  In both cases the back cameras are 8 megapixels versus 12 megapixels in the other A12 devices.

                           

                          It should also be noted that latest AR Quickview app in iOS &iPadOS 13 is also supposed to have 'people occlusion' and face anchoring and if you have a A12X, depth of focus and motion blurring.

                           

                          I am also not happy that I my request has not been fulfilled for the iOS RealityKit app.  My guess is that I have not renewed my developer license, which would be another $99 along with the $399 I have already spent on an iPad Air Gen 3 and it seems I have to spend another $800+ plus for a Mac that can run MacOS 10.15 Catalinia with Metal 3 capability since this too has been mandated and without it Reality Composer (MacOS) just crashes when you try to do anything with it.

                        • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                          samdi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                          Hi I've filed a bug report on this, but haven't heard anything yet:

                           

                          https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/feedback/6784030

                           

                          Would be great to get some feedback from Apple on this.

                          • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                            samdi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                            Any updates on this? The bug report has been open for quite some time with no response. We'd really like to start developing to take advantage of this feature but our primary target is tablet. Disappointing that isn't working yet.

                      • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                        mebalzer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                        I am getting the same thing with the iPad Air 3, but I am on iPad OS.  Also, my usdz files with transparency no longer have transparency in ARKit/RealityKit or the 'Quick Look' viewer.  I am also on xCode 11.0 beta 4 and MacOS Mojave 10.14.6.

                        • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                          smxsmxsmxsmxsmxsmx Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                          It works on iPad Mini 2019 A12 in Unity with the ARFoundation SDK ...

                          • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                            mebalzer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                            Stil not working on my end, how about you?

                             

                            I have filed a bug report today since it still not working in iOS 13b6 either.

                             

                            I't like to know if you works for anyone else on other  devices.

                            • Re: PeopleOcclusion not working?
                              PeterKolski Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

                              Still not working with an iPad Pro 11 iPad OS13.1

                              Also filed a bugreport

                               

                              ARConfiguration.supportsFrameSemantics( .personSegmentationWithDepth )

                              returns false

                               

                              But why? Shouldn't it be supported?